it is right there at the front. >> always about obama? >> a lot about obama. it's not obama specifically. but it's a generalized -- like how they are taking what's ours. >> you know, my brother was working class and visiting him, i feel like bill tran-sixes kind of exploded and it's like, whoa, where did this come from. >> you know, it's like the other side. i hung out not far from my house in the new york city fire department and it's like i heard that. i heard a little bit of that and i have not gone back and listen to that. >> it's like really, we are going to talk about this or how long? [laughter] >> so these guys know that i am not one of them. it is clear. i make it clear. >> by the self-conscious about this? >> the sexism is utterly not self-conscious. there is the occasional swipe at hillary. but there is never a thing because they are also claiming that. >> is and also because the rage is channeled through probably a person or an ex-wife were others? >> not him, necessarily. >> you have personal experience. >> well, i think that in our culture, actua